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Title: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: aliirielle on Jan 25, 2025, 10:03 PM
In 'Magic of Faerun' page 48 details Ranger Guilds, I have been holding an interest in getting one started for ages now and finally want to check for interest in it. It wouldn't be a player faction, but more a player group. A place for rangers of various levels to exchange news, tips, advice, companionship. In addition, in starting the Ranger Guildhall I'd also want to try and orchestrate 'The Hunt' on a yearly basis. It's a yearly gathering of rangers where they gather together for practice, camaraderie, and competition. It's nothing deity specific but both the ranger guildhall and the 'Hunt' are specific to rangers as a class. I wouldn't limit it to people with a majority class levels in ranger, but at least a dip and overall the thematic feeling of the character to very much be 'ranger'.

I'm going to leave the parts from 'Magic of Faerun' here and if you're interested in something like this please let me know by posting here and telling me about your ranger! <3

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Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Ceyella on Jan 26, 2025, 11:26 AM
Both my PCs would be interested in different aspects.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Edge on Jan 26, 2025, 07:26 PM
Tatya Dyalov of the Ghostwise, hunter of the Black Hound.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Ivy on Jan 26, 2025, 08:59 PM
I would be interested. Is a membership in Starlight or the Conclave an issue?
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: aliirielle on Jan 26, 2025, 10:32 PM
Quote from: ceyella on Jan 26, 2025, 11:26 AMBoth my PCs would be interested in different aspects.
So long as they have ranger levels they're welcome!
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: aliirielle on Jan 26, 2025, 10:33 PM
Quote from: Ivy on Jan 26, 2025, 08:59 PMI would be interested. Is a membership in Starlight or the Conclave an issue?

No issue at all! Any PC with ranger levels! I don't plan to have any limitation on deity or alignment, they'll just have to cover up outside the guildhall if they're ECLs that need to, etc.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: awakeninfinity on Jan 27, 2025, 01:11 AM
I have several rangers that would be interested in this.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: pyr122 on Jan 27, 2025, 04:43 AM
Where would it be based out of?

Regardless my elf would be interested
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Ceyella on Jan 27, 2025, 05:03 AM
Quote from: aliirielle on Jan 26, 2025, 10:32 PM
Quote from: ceyella on Jan 26, 2025, 11:26 AMBoth my PCs would be interested in different aspects.
So long as they have ranger levels they're welcome!


I find this to be highly restrictive and a bit meta.

How does one prove they have ranger levels IC?

Saccharine is a Fae - would the rangers bar a fae from entering and wishing to commune with life?


Fain is a priestesses but her goddess is Eilistraee a strong ranger goddess in a sense, and by being a priestess of her she is inherently ranger like -but I can't mechanically take levels and be viable.

It just seems strange to limit a IC group based off something that is purely OOC.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: probot on Jan 27, 2025, 07:34 AM
Classes are an IC thing to a degree, and while some concepts may share overlap (see: a Cleric of Silvanus, a High Forest Druid, and a Wood Elf Ranger), they are still distinct things both mechanically and in-universe. Note in the write up shown in OP that ranger guild halls will ally themselves with druid groves, but still keep their distinct practices. For another example of similar but distinct entities, Paladin orders and the larger clergy of their respective deities. While opening it up enough so that players may get involved to some degree (like the Starlight Grove, for example) is certainly a good thing, it's important to maintain and reinforce where possible the unique fantasy and niche of specific concepts, in this case Rangers. As one more example off the top of my head, membership in the Violet Flame requires that you have Wizard or Sorcerer levels, despite being called more generically a mage guild.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: aliirielle on Jan 27, 2025, 08:16 AM
Quote from: pyr122 on Jan 27, 2025, 04:43 AMWhere would it be based out of?

Regardless my elf would be interested

I don't have a location set just yet! But thus far I'm leaning towards either in Thunderstone or off in a forest
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Edge on Jan 27, 2025, 08:18 AM
Quote from: ceyella on Jan 27, 2025, 05:03 AM
Quote from: aliirielle on Jan 26, 2025, 10:32 PM
Quote from: ceyella on Jan 26, 2025, 11:26 AMBoth my PCs would be interested in different aspects.
So long as they have ranger levels they're welcome!


I find this to be highly restrictive and a bit meta.

How does one prove they have ranger levels IC?

Saccharine is a Fae - would the rangers bar a fae from entering and wishing to commune with life?


Fain is a priestesses but her goddess is Eilistraee a strong ranger goddess in a sense, and by being a priestess of her she is inherently ranger like -but I can't mechanically take levels and be viable.

It just seems strange to limit a IC group based off something that is purely OOC.
Because it's a class and skillet based organization, not one set by an ethos.

It's not a nature faction so fey doesn't mean Instant access or even a desired affilition.

Fain is a priestess, not a ranger, so she lacks the proper skillset.

Not every group is open to every concept. It's okay to limit group interest.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: aliirielle on Jan 27, 2025, 08:28 AM
Quote from: ceyella on Jan 27, 2025, 05:03 AM
Quote from: aliirielle on Jan 26, 2025, 10:32 PM
Quote from: ceyella on Jan 26, 2025, 11:26 AMBoth my PCs would be interested in different aspects.
So long as they have ranger levels they're welcome!


I find this to be highly restrictive and a bit meta.

How does one prove they have ranger levels IC?

Saccharine is a Fae - would the rangers bar a fae from entering and wishing to commune with life?


Fain is a priestesses but her goddess is Eilistraee a strong ranger goddess in a sense, and by being a priestess of her she is inherently ranger like -but I can't mechanically take levels and be viable.

It just seems strange to limit a IC group based off something that is purely OOC.

I'm sorry you feel that way, it's not my intention to be restrictive in any malicious way, but my interest and desire in this idea is to have it be nearly exactly like the canon ranger guildhalls mentioned in Magic of Faerun, as I posted the pictures of. It's something I've wished to put together for over a year now, to give some love to a class I adore the thematic vibe of. As far as being restrictive or meta, it's not much different than the factions and player groups that are specific to a deity, those who worship a different deity are not in those groups.

As Probot said, classes are an IC thing to a degree. Additionally, there are ways to prove the class, like trackless step.
And as Edge said, it's not going to be a nature faction.

Again, while restrictive I do not mean it in any malicious way or to make people feel left out, just....not all things are meant to include everyone.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Terallis on Jan 27, 2025, 03:09 PM
Presently working on an exotic app for a new Ranger of my own, since I no longer have Aedan. But I always like this sort of thing and would definitely be interested! I've definitely missed more of the ranger RP and all that. Haha!
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: razgril on Jan 27, 2025, 04:16 PM
My alt-char, Ome-Ocelome Devonsmith, would love this. She's currently Ranger 9. She's a malarite.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: aliirielle on Jan 28, 2025, 09:46 PM
Alright, wanted to give it a couple days for visibility!

Here's my plan so far, if any of this changes interest of anyone, no hard feelings <3

The Guildhall will be located within a Lodge located in Thunderstone (yet to be built, likely once the town itself is rebuilt). Access to the Lodge itself is public. The entrance to the Hunter's Guild will be within the Lodge, but only accessible by the rangers of the Guildhall.

Rules:
-All rangers are welcome unless they commit crimes against nature, including but not limited to; overhunting, acts against conservation, actively destroying or poisoning the wilderness. Proof of doing so will get you removed from the guild and the local druids advised and authorities informed.
-While religious discourse of a civil nature is allowed so long as all parties involved are desiring to do so, arguments thereof are not allowed within the Guildhall. Take it outside and hash it out elsewhere.
-It is acceptable to show off and discuss trophies of previous hunts. HOWEVER, sentient trophies of any kind are NOT to be shown off within the guild. This does include monstrous races such as goblins and orcs, but also unicorns, fey, etc.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Kalter on Jan 29, 2025, 04:35 AM
Sehlaelis would be quite interested!
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Valimar Dragonbane on Jan 31, 2025, 02:53 PM
I've got a couple of rangers, one of whom may be more interested in it than the other. Sam would likely like to get to know other rangers! He's a hunter of Selune.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: ADM Walking Carpet on Feb 02, 2025, 03:05 PM
you know Vernon is down with this
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: daedalian on Feb 02, 2025, 05:29 PM
Falkir Greydawn, Ranger 23 is looking for a place to hang his cloak and rest his feet from time to time, if they'll have him.
His deity is Shaundakul, so his role has always been in the service of tracking, hunting and guiding travellers and adventurers through the wilds, while preserving nature and observing the proper protocols of hunting.

Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: avatar6666 on Feb 13, 2025, 01:27 PM
Cord would be very much interested in this.
Title: Re: Ranger Guildhall (Checking for interest!)
Post by: Anden Pilasto on Feb 17, 2025, 08:42 AM
Anden, now that he is rebuilding, would also be interested.