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General Category => Suggestions & Ideas => Suggestions Archive => Topic started by: Yaldabaoth on May 20, 2014, 09:49 AM

Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: Yaldabaoth on May 20, 2014, 09:49 AM
On this server, there has been a general trend towards bringing classes up to 3.5 standards, and the bard was no exception, receiving a skill point increase.

However, Bards are still restricted to the simple weapon proficiency.  In 3.5, Bards have access to Longsword, Shortsword, Rapier, and Whip, although you can only choose one of those.  I suggest giving Bards the Rogue Weapon Proficiency, which would allow them Shortsword, Rapier, and Shortbow in addition to what they have now.  Bards, as designed, are more or less a finesse class if you go straight bard, due to the armor limitations.  Unfortunately, with only simple weapon proficiency, they have access only to daggers, light maces, and sickles.  Most of the good finesse weapons are rapiers.  In fact, several rapiers were designed for bards, even though they can't use it!
Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: Arya on May 21, 2014, 11:52 AM
I am all for this.

~Arya
Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: Vincent07 on May 21, 2014, 05:25 PM
I'll be adding in Bardic Weapon Proficiency, which will grant them:  longsword, rapier, short sword, shortbow, and whip.
Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: dagesh on May 21, 2014, 05:41 PM
That's awesome.
Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: Arya on May 21, 2014, 05:43 PM
Hey, the Rogue proficiency would be good.

Bardic proficiency for bards, even better.
Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: allatum on May 21, 2014, 07:56 PM
I shall be making a bard that has perform: lecturing and name him Narfel Jones. He will travel the world in search of rare archeological finds, and at each turn just manage to thwart the machinations of evil Zhents who are out to acquire rare and powerful artifacts.

He'll use a whip and crossbow of course.

(I'm all for this idea of bardic weapon proficiency.)
Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: enarian123 on May 22, 2014, 11:09 AM
Lords, our classes get all the toys here.
Title: Give Bards Rogue Weapon Proficiency
Post by: allatum on May 22, 2014, 12:17 PM
Would it be too much to also suggest that Duelist be updated to allow the bardic weapon proficiency set? since the d20 SRD (which is 3.5 I believe) only requires:

Base Attack Bonus:
+6
Skills:
Perform 3 ranks, Tumble 5 ranks
Feats:
Dodge, Mobility, Weapon finesse

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