Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: goodapollo on May 28, 2014, 12:37 AM
Post by: goodapollo on May 28, 2014, 12:37 AM
I'm looking at making a spellsword, and it seems like the extra spell slots work like palemaster in vanilla nwn. Knowing that, is it worth it at all to make a sorc or bard spellsword, or are they basically a wizard class?
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: aazonis on May 28, 2014, 02:50 AM
Post by: aazonis on May 28, 2014, 02:50 AM
At this time PRCs don't give you new spells for sorcs and bards. If all you want are caster levels though it should work
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: Garage Trashcan on May 28, 2014, 07:05 AM
Post by: Garage Trashcan on May 28, 2014, 07:05 AM
The only thing I'm unsure about is if you'll be able to pick up all your missed spells if you later take bard/sorc levels.
Though Vincent Potter and the Sorcerer's Code has been a long time in the making, and they seem to be getting closer to something workable. One of the reasons the hak update is taking so long.
Though Vincent Potter and the Sorcerer's Code has been a long time in the making, and they seem to be getting closer to something workable. One of the reasons the hak update is taking so long.
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: The Red Mage on May 28, 2014, 01:01 PM
Post by: The Red Mage on May 28, 2014, 01:01 PM
Can't top that.
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: Vincent07 on May 28, 2014, 03:03 PM
Post by: Vincent07 on May 28, 2014, 03:03 PM
Bwahaha. Win.
But as said, sorc/bard does not work with PrCs at present. I have a semi-working system, but it's very much a kludge and I'm kind of hoping to find something better.
But as said, sorc/bard does not work with PrCs at present. I have a semi-working system, but it's very much a kludge and I'm kind of hoping to find something better.
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: Fire Wraith on May 28, 2014, 04:37 PM
Post by: Fire Wraith on May 28, 2014, 04:37 PM
To be specific, all of it works better than vanilla NWN/HotU - but Sorcerers/Bards still have a problem.
As a Wizard, you get the spell slots, and the casting level. You aren't given any new free spells, but by finding scrolls you can learn new ones.
Sorcerers and Bards get the spell slots and the casting level - but, because they don't learn new spells any other way, they're stuck with only the spells they have as a Sorcerer. This isn't a problem if you're level 20, but it's very much one if you want to be a level 10 sorc/10 spellsword. The script system we have lets you assign spells manually, but the problem is that, while that works, it doesn't save across logins.
As a Wizard, you get the spell slots, and the casting level. You aren't given any new free spells, but by finding scrolls you can learn new ones.
Sorcerers and Bards get the spell slots and the casting level - but, because they don't learn new spells any other way, they're stuck with only the spells they have as a Sorcerer. This isn't a problem if you're level 20, but it's very much one if you want to be a level 10 sorc/10 spellsword. The script system we have lets you assign spells manually, but the problem is that, while that works, it doesn't save across logins.
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: Garage Trashcan on May 28, 2014, 04:38 PM
Post by: Garage Trashcan on May 28, 2014, 04:38 PM
Can't top that.
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: goodapollo on May 31, 2014, 07:59 AM
Post by: goodapollo on May 31, 2014, 07:59 AM
Sweet, I'll hold off on the idea for a bit.
Title: Spellsword questions
Post by: Fire Wraith on Jul 20, 2014, 09:49 PM
Post by: Fire Wraith on Jul 20, 2014, 09:49 PM
I should also note that the Spellsword listing was out of date - it's been fixed to 3.5e standards since like, 2010, but we neglected to fix the entry in the forum. It's corrected now. Short version, spellswords get a lot more reduction of spell failure, and by level 9 Spellsword can wear full plate + tower shield with 0% spell failure. They also get +1/+1 AB.