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Hak Update suggestions

Started by allatum, May 10, 2017, 06:08 PM

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Garage Trashcan

Posting here since it was lost in discord.

Proposed change to Mystic Theurge PrC Requirements:

Arcane Spellcasting Requirement: Level 3 Spells > Level 2 Spells
Knowledge Ranks: 6 Ranks in 3 Skills > 9 Ranks in 3 skills

Reason behind the change:
Brought this up in Discord and Edge figured it wouldn't be a bad idea. This is mostly a QoL change to allow for more diversity of MT's leveling path. The intended changes make it so that you still cannot enter the class until level 7 at the earliest, as it is now. Right now, MT is more or less shoehorned into going 5/1 to start ASAP, or 5/x and delaying progression for a more even split. The proposed change would allow for you to still use the current most common level spread or switch to a 3/3 spread at level 6 to begin the class. This allows you, as you level, to have a more divine focus with the character and brings it more in line with PnP which doesn't force the 5/1 split. As someone who would prefer to play a divine-focused theurge who dabbles in the Arcane rather than the vice-versa, this is an appealing option without us having to double up on available PrCs just to fit it.
Basically, a 3/7/10 split becomes possible at 20 rather than the typical 7/3/10 or rarer 5/5/10.
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Fire Wraith

If I recall, 2/2 is how it's supposed to be in the books, but because NWN doesn't actually seem to differentiate between arcane and divine caster levels for prestige class requirements, 5/1 is the only way we can really make sure you were 6th level. It wasn't something arbitrarily chosen.
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Nokteronoth

@fw

The 9 skill requirement means you, at base, have to be level 6 before you can take the class. The change would allow for a more divine heavy Theurge (Getting level 9 divine spells by 20) which isn't possible with how it's set up currently. ATM you either get level 9 arcane and level 8 divine, or you get level 8 spells in both. You can't do more divine heavy.

If you changed the requirement to be more skill based, that allows for a more cleric or Druid based theurge to still get the same usefulness/variety as an arcane one.

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